{"id":14517,"date":"2021-10-18T17:01:26","date_gmt":"2021-10-18T17:01:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/?page_id=14517"},"modified":"2022-12-03T22:12:07","modified_gmt":"2022-12-03T22:12:07","slug":"erec-et-enide-geographie","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/en\/breton-mythology\/erec-et-enide-geography\/","title":{"rendered":"Erec and Enide: geography of history"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"14517\" class=\"elementor elementor-14517\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-8800bed elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"8800bed\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-50 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-1519020\" data-id=\"1519020\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-df1f3bf elementor-align-justify elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"df1f3bf\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/en\/breton-mythology\/\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">Breton mythology<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-50 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-00da247\" data-id=\"00da247\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-20cb8d8 elementor-align-justify elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"20cb8d8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikisource.org\/wiki\/%C3%89rec_et_%C3%89nide\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">Wiki<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-4318d2a elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"4318d2a\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-585ba5f\" data-id=\"585ba5f\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b2efa5d elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b2efa5d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>For the study of this text, Erec and Enide, we will use the edition of Jean-Marie Fritz, according to the manuscript BN. En 1376, The <a href=\"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/en\/book-libraries\/\">book<\/a> de Poche, \u201cGothic Letters\u201d No. 4526, 1992. Here is the sixth part of the study: Geography of the story.<\/p><p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-9347 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/cropped-AlphaOmega-e1602613368367.png\" alt=\"erec and enide Geography of the story\" width=\"25\" height=\"25\" title=\"\"><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-60f3ff5 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"60f3ff5\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-c81a669\" data-id=\"c81a669\" data-element_type=\"column\" 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href=\"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/en\/breton-mythology\/erec-et-enide-geography\/#Geographie-du-recit\" >Geography of the story<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-3' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/en\/breton-mythology\/erec-et-enide-geography\/#Un-trajet-un-voyage\" >A journey, a journey<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/en\/breton-mythology\/erec-et-enide-geography\/#Des-lieux-stereotypes\" >Stereotypical places<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/en\/breton-mythology\/erec-et-enide-geography\/#Juxtaposition-du-reel-et-de-limaginaire\" >Juxtaposition of the real and the imaginary<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Geographie-du-recit\"><\/span>Geography of the story<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-be49840 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"be49840\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-90ae1c5\" data-id=\"90ae1c5\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-eeb288d elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"eeb288d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>The individual adventure becomes, in the novels of chivalry, the dominant characteristic of the knight - as opposed to the collective adventure of the songs of gesture. It will take, precisely from our novel, the form of wandering. Thus, v. 2761-2763, we are told:<\/p><p><cite>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Departi are at some point<br \/>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Erec goes away, his famine in the least<br \/>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0do not know which part, on an adventure<\/cite><\/p><p>In reality, his &quot;journey&quot; takes the form of a series of round trips, the point of departure and arrival of which is the court of King Arthur, a place which is moreover not fixed, since the Court itself is located. moved continuously.<\/p><h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Un-trajet-un-voyage\"><\/span>A journey, a journey<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3><ul><li>Starting point: King Arthur&#039;s court in Caradigan, and the surrounding forest<\/li><li>Laluth, where \u00c9rec defeats Ydier and wins the hawk<\/li><li>Return to King Arthur<\/li><li>Danebroc, the tournament<\/li><li>Carrant, place of &quot;recreation&quot;<\/li><li>The forest<\/li><li>Count Galoain&#039;s castle<\/li><li>Guivret castle<\/li><li>The forest (meeting Arthur&#039;s court, then the Giants)<\/li><li>The castle of the count of Limors<\/li><li>P\u00e9nuris, Guivret castle<\/li><li>Brandigan, the joy of the court<\/li><li>Return to Arthur&#039;s Court<\/li><li>Nantes, place of the coronation<\/li><\/ul><p>The toponyms are more numerous in this novel than in all those which will follow; there are about 68 of them. But most of these names do not correspond to an actual location; the men of the Middle Ages were hardly interested in geography. Thus, the toponyms of Brandigan, Laluth, Limors do not have a referent in reality.<\/p><p>Other names can be identified: Caradigan is possibly Cardigan, au <a href=\"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/en\/welsh-mythology\/\">Wales<\/a>, Danebroc would be Edinburgh, and of course Nantes.<\/p><p>But most of the names cited, especially in the enumerations, are purely imaginary. We have the impression of a great unreality, since Erec ends up in Great Britain without ever mentioning a boat crossing!<\/p><h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Des-lieux-stereotypes\"><\/span>Stereotypical places<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3><p>It will be necessary to wait until the end of the XVIII<sup>th<\/sup> century so that the landscape begins to take on its own value; before it was only a decoration. And here the places are just mentioned, never described. They only have one function. The forest is the place of all bad encounters, dwarves, pillaging knights\u2026 The moor, a Breton reality, resembles it: it is there that Erec meets the Giants. The castle, finally, is the place of sociability (for the banquet and the tournament), where the hero must show his courtesy and his valor.<\/p><p>But these places are extremely general and undifferentiated; they are just stereotypes. Only two places are described with precision, and they are moreover related: the marvelous orchard (v. 5727-5778) and the castle of Brandigan which is contiguous to it (v. 5381-5407). But these are very special places, those of the ultimate test.<\/p><h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Juxtaposition-du-reel-et-de-limaginaire\"><\/span>Juxtaposition of the real and the imaginary<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3><p>The most glaring example is that of Brandigan: next to King Evrain&#039;s castle, presented as belonging to reality, is the marvelous orchard, with no solution of continuity. The Other World is therefore present, closely intertwined with ours.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Breton Mythology Wiki For the study of this text, Erec and Enide, we will use the edition of Jean-Marie Fritz, according to the manuscript \u2026 <\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":96,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-14517","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"amp_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/14517","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14517"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/14517\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":25232,"href":"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/14517\/revisions\/25232"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/96"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mythslegendes.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14517"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}